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    Police Chases

    I really question the need for a high speed chase to catch someone who stole gas.

    Why not just take a picture of the plate and go from there?

    <font color="#a62a2a"><font size="1">[ November 11, 2004 05:22 AM: Message edited by: gae ]</font></font>

    <font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ November 11, 2004 05:26 AM: Message edited by: gae ]</font>

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    Because the cops testosterone says chase. Natural physical reaction.

    This is another example of technology and society evolving faster than the humans' ability to keep up.

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    Heh, good point Trav. Some other examples: atomic bombs and credit cards - what else?

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    Different po-leece departments have different policies on what constitutes a legitimate reason to engage in a high speed pursuit.

    CPD's allows a very high degree of lattitude to the officers on whether to chase/not chase.

    Other departments are more strict.

    I suspect CPD will change.

    My BIL was involved in the chase that got that woman killed in Norwood. He was the passenger in the CPD car.

    His story is not what you read in the paper.

    But regardless, blame for any deaths subsequent to a chase should be placed where the blame belongs: On the person who ran....

    MHO

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    Originally posted by gae:
    Police Chases

    I really question the need for a high speed chase to catch someone who stole gas.

    Why not just take a picture of the plate and go from there?

    <font color="#a62a2a"><font size="1">[ November 11, 2004 05:22 AM: Message edited by: gae ]</font></font>

    <font color="#a62a2a"><font size="1">[ November 11, 2004 05:26 AM: Message edited by: gae ]</font></font>
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I agree. Perhaps some common sense and quick cost/benefit analysis should have been used.

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    We have a no chase policy here. Apparently about 6-7 years ago, there was an officer here that chased a teenager out of the city limits and the kid hit a bridge railing, flipped, and died. The kid was running from a stabbing incident, so the officer did right, but it ended badly.

    So now we do not chase anything. However, the state mandates that we are to "do everything in our power to prevent the flight of those posing a forseeable threat to the general public". Because of that mandate, I am liable for not chasing if I know someone has the potential to hurt somebody. However, I am now also liable under department policy for the chase itself.

    Catch 22 anyone?

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    I'm guessing that it's a very difficult decision to make, whether the chase is needed or not. But, as mentioned above, there has to be some kind of rush from it as well. Human nature says to react, even if trained to do otherwise.
    Most gas stations are equipped with cameras now. With the fall of the full service staion, it became neccessary and is now in just about every staion. Most stations also post that notice that says "drive offs will be prosecuted" or something like that. So, the person that drove off is the one who commits the criminal act that causes any other acts that follow. The death is the result of someone breaking the law, not someone trying to catch that person.
    Just my opinion.

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    Originally posted by gae:
    Police Chases

    I really question the need for a high speed chase to catch someone who stole gas.

    Why not just take a picture of the plate and go from there?

    <font color="#a62a2a"><font size="1">[ November 11, 2004 05:22 AM: Message edited by: gae ]</font></font>

    <font color="#a62a2a"><font size="1">[ November 11, 2004 05:26 AM: Message edited by: gae ]</font></font>
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Can you say 'stolen vehicle'? Kinda hard to track someone off the plate # when the car isn't theirs.

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    Originally posted by Ickey:
    We have a no chase policy here. Apparently about 6-7 years ago, there was an officer here that chased a teenager out of the city limits and the kid hit a bridge railing, flipped, and died. The kid was running from a stabbing incident, so the officer did right, but it ended badly.

    So now we do not chase anything. However, the state mandates that we are to "do everything in our power to prevent the flight of those posing a forseeable threat to the general public". Because of that mandate, I am liable for not chasing if I know someone has the potential to hurt somebody. However, I am now also liable under department policy for the chase itself.

    Catch 22 anyone?
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You could not pay me enough to be a cop. Nooooooo WAY!

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    Originally posted by LanDroid:
    Heh, good point Trav. Some other examples: atomic bombs and credit cards - what else?
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The body's ability to adjust to a sedentary life style and processed foods. Look at all the diets, pills and exercise programs there are and America in in the midst of an obesity and diabetes problem. We didn't have this 100 years ago.

    The body's ability to deal with extreme stress. While third world countries and some inner city environments may not apply, most of the stress we have today is emotional and not physical.

    Our bodies still pool blood in the center mass and away from the extremities incase we are bitten or stabbed, so we bleed out slower and we still get sweats to make us slippery even though no one is trying to hold us down.

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